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[Apr. 14th, 2009|10:37 pm]
Listen in, listen Ian!
Does anyone actually think less of the Labour Party/Gordon Brown as a result of this Derek Draper/Guido Wankshaft shit? This is such a fucking non-story, and now here's Frank fucking Field having a pop. Why don't you fuck off and join the Tories if that's how you feel Frank, you'd be no loss. And I suspect David Cameron wants to be very careful about suggesting party leaders should take personal responsibility for emails between their dickhead advisers.
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[User Picture]From: strictlytrue
2009-04-14 09:54 pm (UTC)
From what I've learned of McBride over the past 72 hours, I think Brown should never have hired him, so it that sense, the answer to your question is yes.

However, the levels of humbug from the Tories, Tory blogs and the media (the chief political correspondent on ITV came dangerously close to calling for Brown to resign himself) have amazed even me. And the sense that the media's handling of the affair has been the result of a meticulously planned spin operation from Tory central office is growing hourly. I have heard the e-mails described as a "new low" in British politics, which suggests that people just need to read more.
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[User Picture]From: mr_tom
2009-04-14 10:01 pm (UTC)
In all fairness, it is the newest low since the last one. :)
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[User Picture]From: ozgirlabroad
2009-04-14 11:36 pm (UTC)
ozgirlabroad likes this.


Oh, hang on, this isn't facebook.
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From: funnynamehere
2009-04-14 10:10 pm (UTC)
I just think people don't care as much as some Tories and especially some bloggers - always keen on self-aggrandising are bloggers - would like to think. For one thing this happened at Easter when people have better things to do than read the papers and when the news is buried in fifteen minutes before Toy Story or something. Also, and I can only go on anecdotal evidence here, isn't this rather what people expect of politicians and their advisers? And I suspect that too many people have too many other things to worry about than cheap, inter-party spats that seem to have been happening for time immemorial.
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[User Picture]From: spoonrefuter
2009-04-15 06:19 am (UTC)
isn't this rather what people expect of politicians and their advisers?

Absolutely.

Smear campaigns are bad and wrong and so on, and it's absolutely right that people should be a bit miffed and it's proper that McBride got the boot/resigned, but it's stupid to think that it will not happen again, and indeed that is worthy of more than a day's worth of news.
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[User Picture]From: publicansdecoy
2009-04-14 10:11 pm (UTC)
The real question is: Does anybody seriously believe that TeamCameron is above that sort of thing?

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[User Picture]From: burkesworks
2009-04-14 11:21 pm (UTC)
I'm no Labourite as you know, but the answer this time is "no". The buck stops firmly with McBride here, and if he's going to get involved with tarbabies like Draper and Staines he deserves all he gets. Brown is, as far as I can make out, completely blameless this time.
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[User Picture]From: ozgirlabroad
2009-04-14 11:38 pm (UTC)
I wholeheartedly concur sir.
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[User Picture]From: lowlowprices
2009-04-15 01:26 am (UTC)
Yes. Brown has personally indulged a man who is not only exceedingly incompetant, but loathed enough to be spectacularly betrayed.
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[User Picture]From: frightened
2009-04-15 07:46 am (UTC)
Well, I don't exactly think less of them, because a) I'm not surprised and b) I'm sure any of the other lot would do exactly the same. But I think it's worth knowing about, and I'm glad the guy's gone.

Derek Draper and Guido Fawkes should just have angry sex and get it out of their systems.
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[User Picture]From: carsmilesteve
2009-04-15 09:34 am (UTC)
i am going to have to scrub my brain now...
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[User Picture]From: argyraspid
2009-04-16 11:51 am (UTC)
Yes.

I accept smear campaigns are part of politics, and not likely to stop until politics itself does. However, parties also need to maintain their public image, and have reasonable deniability for dirt. To involve people so intimately connected with the workings of the party, and for such dubious content to be distributed by discoverable and trackable communication, is just grossly incompetent.
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