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[Jun. 26th, 2009|10:34 am]
Listen in, listen Ian!
Yes, it's sad, and a terrible tragedy for his children, family and friends, just as it is when anyone dies. Is anyone else shocked though at the extent of the coverage? BBC News this morning - yeah, them again - were solemny declaring that "The King Of Pop has died." as if he was a real king, which he wasn't any more than Dr Fox is a real doctor. I'm also feeling slightly - to cheapen the word a little - oppressed by the underlying assumption that everyone in the world was unquestionably a huge fan of his music when I have never owned any of it, and never wanted to, finding it mostly overblown and tedious. That's not just me either, is it?

I'm intrigued to know what happens next with regard to all the tickets that were touted on eBay. I'd guess that the people who bought them on eBay are unlucky losers. It's an interesting legal situation - what is the contract between eBay buyer and seller? Is the obligation on the seller to provide the buyer with a Michael Jackson show (as it was in the original deal between promoter and eBay seller, under which someone1 is now entitled to get the original price (leaving aside the issue of booking fees, which will have themselves have been vast and left the people who just bought tickets because they wanted to see the shows badly out of pocket)) or is the seller simply reasssigning his part of the original deal to the buyer. Speaking as not a lawyer, I would question if the seller is allowed to do that without the consent of the promoter, so possibly the first option is true, which suggests that my original guess would be wrong. What I predict is that some lawyers will get a bit richer out of this.

1God knows how this will work. Will ticket holders have to surrender the physical tickets to get a refund, or will TicketBastard just automatically refund everyone's money? If the latter, does that point extra to the eBay seller having to refund the buyer's money?
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[User Picture]From: wardytron
2009-06-26 09:41 am (UTC)
The King of Pop was something he called himself. He made it up, it's like Paul Ince calling himself the Guvnor. But the BBC seem to think he was elected King of Pop, or something, like it's an official title.
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[User Picture]From: offensive_mango
2009-06-26 09:46 am (UTC)
Does Prince take over now?
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[User Picture]From: ruudboy
2009-06-26 10:18 am (UTC)
Ironically, he is a real prince.
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[User Picture]From: eyekiller
2009-06-26 09:49 am (UTC)
hey wardytron is it you who has started the rumour about Jeff Goldblum?
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[User Picture]From: wardytron
2009-06-26 10:02 am (UTC)
No, I heard he'd died falling off a cliff in New Zealand and believed it was true. I think now though to save my reputation he needs to jump off a cliff in New Zealand.
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[User Picture]From: pookee
2009-06-26 09:46 am (UTC)
I don't think the media reaction is any different to when Elvis died, it probably just seems worse because we have so many more media outlets now than we did in the 1970's. In a world of 24-hour news and endless Internet gossip, everything seems overblown. I can understand the media hysteria over his death far more than I could over Jade Goody. At least Jackson - like him or not - was an incredibly talented man who earned his fame through that talent. Shame that fame screwed him up personally, mind.

To be fair to the BBC, the news on Radio 2 has been referring to him as 'the self-styled King of Pop' this morning.

Edited at 2009-06-26 09:47 am (UTC)
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[User Picture]From: k425
2009-06-26 11:02 am (UTC)
I haven't heard much, because I missed most of the 6am news and then went to work, but yes, I agree it's like Elvis. That was huge - I still remember a lot about the day and I was 10. So there must have been a lot of reporting about it or I wouldn't have been that aware.

I also agree with what you say about both Jackson and Goody.
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[User Picture]From: perfectlyvague
2009-06-26 01:17 pm (UTC)
Radio 4 weren't anything like so stringent, Humphrys wasn't on duty so noone scoffed at the programme's ridiculous editorial.
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[User Picture]From: eyekiller
2009-06-26 09:49 am (UTC)
I spoke to his brother on the phone once.
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[User Picture]From: pookee
2009-06-26 09:51 am (UTC)
Which one? Randy? Tito? Jermaine? Jackie The Other One?
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[User Picture]From: eyekiller
2009-06-26 09:52 am (UTC)
Jer-maine.
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[User Picture]From: pookee
2009-06-26 09:58 am (UTC)
He seems like a nice chap. Was he trying to rent a house off you? Or was it just a wrong number?
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[User Picture]From: eyekiller
2009-06-26 10:05 am (UTC)
I was a receptionist (of a sort) and answered the phone and it was him. "It's Jer-maine" he said. It wasn't until after I realised it was Jer-maine Jackson (who was the owner of the place I was sort of a receptionist in).
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[User Picture]From: pookee
2009-06-26 10:08 am (UTC)
Ooh, the longer I know you the more of a mystery you become!
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[User Picture]From: ruudboy
2009-06-26 06:22 pm (UTC)
Do you realise, you could have got on the BBC London news with this anecdote tonight?
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[User Picture]From: chiller
2009-06-26 09:54 am (UTC)
The blanket coverage is pretty much identical to the Diana Thing, isn't it? Very odd, in both cases. I was listening to it last night on iPlayer and hadn't realised, until I got into bed and flicked on the telly in there, that they had turned over BBC2 entirely to it.
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[User Picture]From: offensive_mango
2009-06-26 02:10 pm (UTC)
Wait, what did they say about Blanket?
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[User Picture]From: chiller
2009-06-26 02:17 pm (UTC)
Apparently all that time he was in the Cabinet - he was blind! Who knew &c.
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From: funnynamehere
2009-06-26 10:02 am (UTC)
Hang on, Dr Fox isn't a real doctor?

(Wasn't there a really great story about Paul Ince telling his new Man Utd team-mates that everybody called him "The Guv'nor" so that's what he wanted to be known as at United and somebody old school like Gary Pallister or Steve Bruce told him to stop being such an arse and called him Incey. I think so, but I can't really remember.)
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[User Picture]From: pookee
2009-06-26 10:05 am (UTC)
I really hope that Paul Ince story is true. The twat.
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[User Picture]From: ruudboy
2009-06-26 06:23 pm (UTC)
Probably Bruce - Pallister signed around the same time as Ince, possibly even after him.
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[User Picture]From: birdsflying
2009-06-26 10:32 am (UTC)

*wanders in from friendsfriends* again...

Re: refunds. It's a bit of a hit and miss. The Beeb actually have a pretty good roundup of the legal issues. As far as I understand, it, if you bought from a reseller, whether on Ebay or via a friend, you're up a creek without a paddle legally as there is nothing legal backing up the "contract". You just gotta hope, in the context of a friend, that they'll refund your cash. (Although, YMMV - I am not a lawyer, I just did their research...)
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[User Picture]From: braisedbywolves
2009-06-26 10:42 am (UTC)
Not everyone, but probably closer to everyone than anyone since The Other King. A lot of his nineties stuff was over blown, but one of the reasons that he's endured is that Thriller and Off The Wall are both amazing albums that arguably invented pop-as-a-genre, and they don't have an inch of fat on them.
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[User Picture]From: tonight_we_fly
2009-06-26 12:10 pm (UTC)
Honestly, people didn't make this much fuss when Johnny Cash died - shame upon the human race!

It all seems to be going a bit John Lennon a the moment. Best get over to Ladbrokes quick before the odds on Jackson being christmas number one get too short...
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[User Picture]From: the_alchemist
2009-06-26 12:53 pm (UTC)
BBC News this morning - yeah, them again - were solemny declaring that "The King Of Pop has died." as if he was a real king

What's so great about 'real' kings? I'm not a particular MJ fan either, but he did more to deserve the title than the whole Windsor family put together.
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[User Picture]From: glynnis
2009-06-26 05:09 pm (UTC)
I hope everyone in the UK was at least spared the footage of his body being removed from a sheriff's helicopter and being placed in an LA coroner's van, after a news chopper chased the sheriff's helicopter across LA. That was pretty gross. Unsurprisingly, all the 24-hour news stations here are talking about Michael Jackson at the expense of more important stories. Yes, he was a cultural icon, but he's dead, so he's not going to do much else. Iran or North Korea on the other hand...

What I really want to know is how someone, especially someone who made a TON of money in their life, ends up $500 million in debt.
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[User Picture]From: ruudboy
2009-06-26 06:26 pm (UTC)
I know. I mean Jebus, I'm good at spending money, but I'm not that good.

I've not seen that footage, but The Sun had the "Exclusive Final Photos" of him today, apparently.
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