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[Aug. 29th, 2006|11:18 am]
Listen in, listen Ian!
There's a stupid story on the front of Metro this morning. Well, a particularly stupid one that is, otherwise it wouldn't really be comment-worthy would it? Apparently though, city lawyers have been accused of being homophobic because they go to lap-dancing bars, watch rugby and drink a lot. The accusations came from gay lawyers, who are afraid to come out.

Now, whilst I don't doubt that there are plenty of homophobes in city law firms, and probably plenty of actual discrimination based on this, this is just clearly nonsense. For a start, if you haven't come out then nobody knows you're gay - that you're presumed to be heterosexusal until proved otherwise is unfortunately the case - and so you are being asked if you want to come to the lap-dancing bar because they are being friendly. How is going to a lap-dancing bar homophobic anyway? Tedious laddish arsehole behaviour, yes, but not homophobia. And watching rubgy and drinking a lot are exclusively heterosexual behaviour are they? FFS. This is just idiot attention seekers, diverting the attention from people who are actually being discrimnated against, and making the whole discrimination thing seem less serious and important than it actually is.

Oh, and then Metro put the cherry on the icing with a cartoon featuring an actually homophobic joke about gowns and wigs. Excellent.
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[User Picture]From: hoshuteki
2006-08-29 10:29 am (UTC)
Ha ha, Metro eh? I'm so glad I don't read that rubbish anymore. I wonder what the new free papers will be like... Much the same I bet. We should meet for lunch sometime, btw. I am bored and want to visit Covent Garden.
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[User Picture]From: braisedbywolves
2006-08-29 10:34 am (UTC)
I concur.
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[User Picture]From: ruudboy
2006-08-30 08:04 am (UTC)
See below!
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[User Picture]From: braisedbywolves
2006-08-30 08:14 am (UTC)
I still concur!
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[User Picture]From: ruudboy
2006-08-29 11:16 am (UTC)
Yes. Prob too late to organise this today though, since I'm about to go out and I need to waste time renewing my travelcard today anyway, but any other lunchtime is good for me.
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[User Picture]From: hoshuteki
2006-08-29 11:19 am (UTC)
Good. Tomorrow? I confidently predict I will be bored tomorrow also.
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[User Picture]From: ruudboy
2006-08-29 02:47 pm (UTC)
Tomorrow is good. What time? Where? I can do any time between about 12.15 and 1.00. Outside Covent Garden Station?
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[User Picture]From: hoshuteki
2006-08-29 03:41 pm (UTC)
Sure 12.30 is a convenient time. See you there!
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From: mooism
2006-08-29 11:34 am (UTC)
Do they ask female lawyers along? Do female lawyers go along with them? What about lesbian lawyers?
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[User Picture]From: caramel_betty
2006-08-29 12:02 pm (UTC)
Based on the reports of a (gay, not-out-at-work, male) friend in the finance industry, it's mostly lads nights out. And because the culture is very straight, most of the homosexualists he knows aren't out (he's bumped into a few in bars) because of a perceived "I won't get that promotion" culture. But because of that, he sometimes feels pressured to go on these evenings out in order to preserve a veil of heterosexuality.

(Which isn't the same thing as going to a lap-dancing club being homophobic, obviously.)
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[User Picture]From: classytart
2006-08-29 10:18 pm (UTC)
3 known rugby fans at my work - 1 straight man, 1 straight woman, 1 gay man. Biggest drinkers at my work - probably the above straight woman, another woman (divorcee), and the above gay man. Lap-dance fans - hasn't come up.

But I agree with you. If they are homophobic, this evidence weakens the argument because it's so clearly naffing irrelevant. Maybe coming out would stop the lads' nights being at lap dance places? (unlikely, I admit, but you never know.) It's not fair to judge on that evidence.
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